But still, it's not like I see Buffy and Dru as two sides of the same coin or anything. What I really agreed with though was the discussion about Angel/Angelus. Yes, I would totally buy into that.
I actually think S2 was trying to play up the two sides of the same coin angle - Buffy sees Angel with Dru not knowing who she is and is somewhat anxious/jealous; she sees Dru - not Spike - kill Angel repeatedly in her dreams; although Dru does no such thing and in fact it's Buffy who kills Angel (not Angelus); and Dru was Angel's victim prior to Sunnydale. So I suspect that Buffy is seeing herself in Dru but unbeknownst to herself.
I think Spike and Dru were meant to contrast against and parallel Buffy and Angel in S2 before Angel lost his soul - the "good lovers" and the "bad lovers". Then both Spike and Angel "switched sides" and suddenly all bets were off. (And aren't we all the better off for it?)
I totally agree.
Drusillathekiller wrote about how Drusilla's condition is treated as a joke in another (very good) meta, in ways even I hadn't stopped to consider. http://drusillathekiller.tumblr.com/post/117959695958/ive-noticed-theres-a-pronounced-and-perhaps (Hint: this is gonna end up on my buffyverse top 5 recs in january) Buffy, Spike, and Fred are presented as losing their minds. Drusilla is- with the exception of a few flashback scenes- presented as having lost her mind. The use of past rather than present tense makes a huge difference....
....we as an audience were encouraged to laugh at Drusilla’s suffering and struggles to survive with a mental illness. She’s already insane. She’s lost her humanity (both figuratively and literally). She isn’t a person anymore, she’s just crazy. You can laugh at her. It’s funny.
But when someone isn’t insane yet but in the process of being driven insane, this is tragic, because we all know if you have a mental illness you no longer qualify as a person but a commodity in the eyes of most fiction, right? How sad that they’re losing their humanity. That’s why we’re made to laugh at Drusilla and cry for Buffy, Winifred, and Spike.
In a lot of fiction, if you have a mental illness then you’re no longer written as a person.
And I hope the mods will forgive me for hijacking the thread and taking it down a bunny trail.
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I actually think S2 was trying to play up the two sides of the same coin angle - Buffy sees Angel with Dru not knowing who she is and is somewhat anxious/jealous; she sees Dru - not Spike - kill Angel repeatedly in her dreams; although Dru does no such thing and in fact it's Buffy who kills Angel (not Angelus); and Dru was Angel's victim prior to Sunnydale. So I suspect that Buffy is seeing herself in Dru but unbeknownst to herself.
I think Spike and Dru were meant to contrast against and parallel Buffy and Angel in S2 before Angel lost his soul - the "good lovers" and the "bad lovers". Then both Spike and Angel "switched sides" and suddenly all bets were off. (And aren't we all the better off for it?)
I totally agree.
Drusillathekiller wrote about how Drusilla's condition is treated as a joke in another (very good) meta, in ways even I hadn't stopped to consider. http://drusillathekiller.tumblr.com/post/117959695958/ive-noticed-theres-a-pronounced-and-perhaps
(Hint: this is gonna end up on my buffyverse top 5 recs in january)
Buffy, Spike, and Fred are presented as losing their minds. Drusilla is- with the exception of a few flashback scenes- presented as having lost her mind. The use of past rather than present tense makes a huge difference....
....we as an audience were encouraged to laugh at Drusilla’s suffering and struggles to survive with a mental illness. She’s already insane. She’s lost her humanity (both figuratively and literally). She isn’t a person anymore, she’s just crazy. You can laugh at her. It’s funny.
But when someone isn’t insane yet but in the process of being driven insane, this is tragic, because we all know if you have a mental illness you no longer qualify as a person but a commodity in the eyes of most fiction, right? How sad that they’re losing their humanity. That’s why we’re made to laugh at Drusilla and cry for Buffy, Winifred, and Spike.
In a lot of fiction, if you have a mental illness then you’re no longer written as a person.
And I hope the mods will forgive me for hijacking the thread and taking it down a bunny trail.